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📝 WalkthroughWalkthroughThe DeepSeek decode examples now pass scale tensors to kernels, read scales from GM, and evaluate MoE receive-count predicates on the device. Both orchestration paths use static expert tile budgets. Kernel registrations, runtime ring sizing, and documentation reflect the new data flow. ChangesDeepSeek decode orchestration
Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~60 minutes Merge Risk: ⚪ Minimal · up to The PR changes DSv4 orchestration to predicate-based tile dispatch and has no demonstrated runtime or correctness blocker; only minor documentation follow-up remains for reconciling task counts and clarifying tile-grid wording. It is merge-ready after normal review. Sequence Diagram(s)sequenceDiagram
participant Orchestration
participant ScaleTensorGM
participant decode_fwd
participant recv_count_out
participant ExpertTasks
Orchestration->>ScaleTensorGM: Pass scale tensor inputs
Orchestration->>decode_fwd: Build fixed-budget task grid
ScaleTensorGM->>decode_fwd: Kernel loads scale values from GM
recv_count_out->>ExpertTasks: Device receive counts
ExpertTasks->>ExpertTasks: Evaluate dispatch predicates
ExpertTasks->>Orchestration: Execute eligible expert tasks
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In `@examples/a2a3/host_build_graph/deepseek_v4_flash_decode/README.md`:
- Around line 50-54: Reconcile the task-count figures in the README by comparing
the 15,971 device-side count with the later 15,991 individual-submission count.
If they represent different scopes, explicitly identify those scopes; otherwise
correct the inconsistent value so the documented Graph reduction is
reproducible.
- Around line 28-30: Replace “static one-tile-per-expert grid” with “static
per-expert tile grid” in both descriptions:
examples/a2a3/host_build_graph/deepseek_v4_flash_decode/README.md lines 28-30
and
examples/a2a3/host_build_graph/deepseek_v4_flash_decode/test_deepseek_v4_flash_decode.py
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…dicates The ten `recv_count_out[expert][0]` reads driving the MoE per-expert tile loops were the last orchestration reads of a task-produced tensor. On `tensormap_and_ringbuffer` they stall the AICPU orchestrator on a producer wait; on `host_build_graph` they have no value to return at all, because the host builds the whole graph before the device executes anything, so the ten sites stood a constant in and that copy encoded a routing the fixture does not have. The count now steers the loops from the device side, split by role: - Trip count -> dispatch predicate. Both runtimes build a static per-expert tile grid -- the `h_i8 [512, 2048]` layout budgets 16 rows per expert and a tile is 16 rows, so one tile per expert -- and each of a tile's six tasks carries a dispatch predicate on that element, `recv_count_out[expert][0] > t0`. The scheduler evaluates it at the dispatch point, where the task is already ready and the count is therefore current: an expert whose count does not reach the tile's first row has the tile's tasks retired inline, never dispatched to a core. - `valid_rows` -> kernel-side read. The one value the loops computed from the count, `valid_rows = min(count - t0, 16)`, was a task scalar of `exp_gate_up_act*`. The orchestrations pass `recv_count_out` as an extra tensor input instead, at the former first-scalar slot, and each of the five kernels derives the row count from GM in `kernel_entry` after a single-line dcci on the element; the predicate guarantees the difference is at least 1 whenever the kernel runs. The inner ptoas-generated functions are untouched; the five `_KERNELS` signatures grow a trailing input. The predicate declares no dependency, on either path, and needs none here: every task in a tile consumes a `dispatch_gather` output and `dispatch_gather` depends on `dispatch_meta`, which writes the count. Inside the Graph body the operand classifies as INTERNAL and rebinds through the same path a tensor arg does. `decode_fwd_graph.cpp` therefore carries no runtime-specific rewrite any more: it is the TMR orchestration recast as a Graph. `ext_num_tokens_per_owner` is the one `get_tensor_data` read left in either file -- an external tensor the runtime stages with a host view, feeding `set_block_num`, which a predicate cannot express because it decides whether a task dispatches, not how wide it is. Both cases are `skip_golden` completion/smoke cases with no full-network reference. The TMR ring heap grows to 2 GiB to match HBG's, since tile scratch is now allocated for all 32 experts of every MoE layer whatever the routing turns out to be.
`SIMPLER_HBG_BIND_BREAKDOWN_ENABLE=1` has itemized the bind path for a while, but nothing said which segments make up the number the < 1 ms target applies to, how to get the two decode cases to emit the lines at all, or which of the readings are wrong rather than merely noisy. Every one of those cost a wasted device job to learn. This is that page. The definition worth writing down: the control plane is `host_orch + graph_upload + relocate + sm_h2d + arena_h2d`, and it is a **sum of cost shares, not an interval** -- `arena_h2d` runs after `host_view_close`, some 250 ms later, so subtracting two timestamps overstates it by two orders of magnitude. `args` and `host_view_close` are excluded because they price the ~41-46 GB of weights each case stages, not the graph. Four traps have each produced a confidently wrong answer: - A `device_count > 1` case run through the module runner yields a **passing** log with zero `bind phase=` lines, because `run_jobs` prints a child's stdout only on failure. The L3 child command has to be issued directly. - `SIMPLER_SKIP_DEVICE_RUN` is presence-based, so `=0` still skips -- a run then reports PASSED having executed nothing. - Comparing two branches sequentially attributes a drift in host load to the branch. The conditions have to interleave, and the per-pass sign has to agree. - A sum of per-segment minima is a total no pass achieved, and it can invert the sign against the minimum of the per-pass sums -- observed at -0.30 ms against +0.16 ms on one dsv4 log. The reference numbers are `upstream/main` on both cases, as ranges rather than points, because the range is what tells a reader whether their effect is measurable at all: `host_orch` alone spans 2.6-4.9 ms on dsv4 across passes of an unmodified build. Where a segment's scatter swamps the change, the page says to instrument the mechanism instead of timing the segment. The table is pinned to a commit (`777d4171`) and says why: the counts move too. Re-measuring against current `main` before opening this found four of its numbers already stale -- dsv4's `graph_upload` bytes 613,424 -> 671,144 and one task moved between `submit_task` and `alloc_tensors` (839/272, not 838/273), both from hw-native-sys#1926's predicated MoE tile loops; the case's kernel sources are 369, not 367; and the checked-in dsv4 swimlane holds 24 host spans, not 20. Everything structural was unchanged -- task counts, Definition node counts, boundary widths, `heap_used`, `sm_h2d` bytes -- which is the distinction the page now draws for the reader. The page is listed in `mkdocs.yml`'s nav. The docs build runs `--strict`, so a page present under `docs/` but absent from the nav is a build failure, not a warning. Kept as one page at 277 lines and 8 H2 sections, above doc-consistency's soft trigger: the content is majority tables and command blocks rather than prose, and the reference numbers earn their place directly below Recipe A because that is where a reader compares a fresh measurement against them.
`SIMPLER_HBG_BIND_BREAKDOWN_ENABLE=1` has itemized the bind path for a while, but nothing said which segments make up the number the < 1 ms target applies to, how to get the two decode cases to emit the lines at all, or which of the readings are wrong rather than merely noisy. Every one of those cost a wasted device job to learn. This is that page. The definition worth writing down: the control plane is `host_orch + graph_upload + relocate + sm_h2d + arena_h2d`, and it is a **sum of cost shares, not an interval** -- `arena_h2d` runs after `host_view_close`, some 250 ms later, so subtracting two timestamps overstates it by two orders of magnitude. `args` and `host_view_close` are excluded because they price the ~41-46 GB of weights each case stages, not the graph. Four traps have each produced a confidently wrong answer: - A `device_count > 1` case run through the module runner yields a **passing** log with zero `bind phase=` lines, because `run_jobs` prints a child's stdout only on failure. The L3 child command has to be issued directly. - `SIMPLER_SKIP_DEVICE_RUN` is presence-based, so `=0` still skips -- a run then reports PASSED having executed nothing. - Comparing two branches sequentially attributes a drift in host load to the branch. The conditions have to interleave, and the per-pass sign has to agree. - A sum of per-segment minima is a total no pass achieved, and it can invert the sign against the minimum of the per-pass sums -- observed at -0.30 ms against +0.16 ms on one dsv4 log. The reference numbers are `upstream/main` on both cases, as ranges rather than points, because the range is what tells a reader whether their effect is measurable at all: `host_orch` alone spans 2.6-4.9 ms on dsv4 across passes of an unmodified build. Where a segment's scatter swamps the change, the page says to instrument the mechanism instead of timing the segment. The table is pinned to a commit (`777d4171`) and says why: the counts move too. Re-measuring against current `main` before opening this found four of its numbers already stale -- dsv4's `graph_upload` bytes 613,424 -> 671,144 and one task moved between `submit_task` and `alloc_tensors` (839/272, not 838/273), both from #1926's predicated MoE tile loops; the case's kernel sources are 369, not 367; and the checked-in dsv4 swimlane holds 24 host spans, not 20. Everything structural was unchanged -- task counts, Definition node counts, boundary widths, `heap_used`, `sm_h2d` bytes -- which is the distinction the page now draws for the reader. The page is listed in `mkdocs.yml`'s nav. The docs build runs `--strict`, so a page present under `docs/` but absent from the nav is a build failure, not a warning. Kept as one page at 277 lines and 8 H2 sections, above doc-consistency's soft trigger: the content is majority tables and command blocks rather than prose, and the reference numbers earn their place directly below Recipe A because that is where a reader compares a fresh measurement against them.
What
Follows #1921 (merged) — that PR moved the DSv4 orchestrations' 30 data
get_tensor_datareads (thehc_*_scale_*values) into the consuming kernels. This one finishes the job for the reads #1921 left behind: the tenrecv_count_out[expert][0]reads driving the MoE per-expert tile loops, the last orchestration reads of a task-produced tensor.tensormap_and_ringbufferthey stall the AICPU orchestrator on a producer wait;host_build_graphthey have no value to return at all — the host builds the whole graph before the device executes anything — so the ten sites stoodHBG_RECV_ROWS_PER_EXPERT = 16in as a temporary stand-in, and that copy encoded a routing the fixture does not have.The count now steers the loops from the device side, split by role:
Trip count → dispatch predicate. Both runtimes build a static per-expert tile grid — the
h_i8 [512, 2048]layout budgets 16 rows per expert and a tile is 16 rows, so one tile per expert — and each of a tile's six tasks (exp_gate_mm,exp_up_mm,exp_gate_up_act,exp_h_q,exp_w2_mm,exp_w2_act) carries a dispatch predicate on that element:The scheduler evaluates it at the dispatch point, where the task is already ready and the count is therefore current. An expert whose count does not reach the tile's first row has the tile's tasks retired inline, never dispatched to a core. 10 sites × 2 files, 30
set_predicatecalls each, symmetric.valid_rows→ kernel-side read. The one value the loops computed from the count,valid_rows = min(count - t0, 16), was a task scalar ofexp_gate_up_act*. It moves into the kernels the same way #1921 moved the scales: the orchestrations passrecv_count_outas an extra tensor input at the former first-scalar slot, and each of the five kernels derives the row count from GM inkernel_entry, after a single-linedccion the element (the count lives in the ring heap, so a line this core cached under an earlier tensor could otherwise serve it). The predicate guaranteescount - t0 >= 1whenever the kernel runs. The inner ptoas-generated functions are untouched; the five_KERNELSsignatures grow a trailing input (oiiiii → oiiiiii,xiiiii → xiiiiii).Why no dependency is declared
The predicate declares none on either path, by design — the caller does. None is needed here: every task in a tile consumes a
dispatch_gatheroutput, anddispatch_gathercarries an explicit dependency ondispatch_meta, which writesrecv_count_out. Inside the Graph body that edge is recorded as a fanin, so the ordering survives replay; the new tensor input additionally records a direct fanin on thedispatch_metanode.Consequences
decode_fwd_graph.cppcarries no runtime-specific rewrite any more. It is the TMR orchestration recast as a Graph.HBG_RECV_ROWS_PER_EXPERTis gone; both files share oneEXPERT_ROWS_BUDGETthat only sizes the static grid.get_tensor_dataread left in either file:ext_num_tokens_per_owner. It is an external tensor the runtime stages with a host view, and it feedsset_block_num— a launch parameter a predicate cannot express, because a predicate decides whether a task dispatches, not how wide it is.TENSOR_WAIT_TIMEOUTonrecv_count_out— that read no longer exists, and it was a consequence of the comm-window stall rather than a cause.Verification
KernelCompiler.compile_incore, aiv, pto-isa pin); the two orchestrations compile clean under the hostg++and (TMR) the aarch64 AICPU cross-g++.n_rows+ 5e_rowsper file; 5valid_rowssites per file) and on the number of submits found inside each rewritten loop body (4 and 2), so a site whose shape did not match would have failed the run rather than been silently skipped. Each consumer'sadd_inputbinds the nearest preceding predicate's count tensor, asserted per site — the five MoE blocks each have their ownrecv_count_out.graph_record_node's predicate refusals: the operand is[32,1]INT32 allocated inside the Graph body, so it classifiesINTERNAL(notOWN_OUTPUT),ndimsmatches, andflat_offset - start_offsetis the expert index, insideextent_elem_cache == 32.a2a3sim:host_build_graph/graph_predicated_dispatchandhost_build_graph/predicated_dispatch.Not verified on hardware. Both DSv4 cases are
manual, need two dies and a 368-kernel compile; this box is currently 16/16 occupied andnpu-smi/dcmi fails to initialize for new processes (dcmi module initialize failed. ret is -8005), so the arch precheck cannot pass. An onboardSIMPLER_SKIP_DEVICE_RUN=1HBG run (host orchestration + Graph recording, which is where a rejected predicate operand would surface) is the check still owed; happy to post it once a die frees up.