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Import/export options for Sweet Home 3D files #174
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@pabloab am curious, how do you use Sweet Home 3D professionally?
@kleenkanteen I use SH3D for home renovations. All professionals I know aren't FOSS advocates, and mostly use AutoCAD suite or SketchUp. Pascal Editor seems a modern alternative of SH3D. Maybe could be used/adapted for wood/cabinet builders.
Would love a way to import sketchup files somehow, maybe through a standard 3d file? I'd love to use an open source/web based version to create a digital twin for my house, and the Pascal Editor looks really great! Bravo
Good writeup — the format breakdown is what makes this actionable, so thanks for doing that work up front.
Same answer as I just gave on #158, and
.sh3dis arguably the best candidate of the import requests because of what you documented: it's a ZIP with a declarativeHome.xmldescribing walls, rooms, furniture and cameras. That's a structural description mapping fairly directly onto Pascal's node schemas, rather than the geometry-recovery problem that DXF and IFC are. Walls with start/end/thickness/height are close to a one-to-one with Pascal's wall nodes.The shape to build it in is the pair the repo already uses for IFC:
packages/ifc-converter— pure conversion onto@pascal-app/coreschemas, no DOMapps/ifc-converter— drop zone, extracted-element inspector, live viewer preview, JSON download
So:
packages/sh3d-converter+apps/sh3d-converter. Being able to preview and inspect before importing matters as much here as it does for IFC.Two notes from reading the format description:
- The furniture catalog is the interesting problem, not the geometry. SH3D references its own catalog pieces plus embedded OBJ/MTL. Pascal items are GLB from its own catalog, so a converter has to choose between mapping to the nearest Pascal catalog item (loses fidelity, gains editability) or converting the embedded OBJ to GLB (preserves the model, produces items that don't behave like catalog items). Probably both, as an option. Worth deciding before writing much code.
- Export to
.sh3dis a much weaker case than import, and I'd leave it out. Import brings work into Pascal from a tool people are migrating off; export means maintaining a writer for a format whose consumer is the app they left. If you want a round-trip out of Pascal, GLB export already exists and IFC is the better long-term interchange target.
On @gr2m's SketchUp question:
.skpis closed and versioned, so its own converter isn't likely. SketchUp exports glTF/OBJ/DAE, and Pascal imports GLB today — that's the practical route for a digital twin, though you get meshes rather than editable walls. If what you want is editable geometry, IFC out of SketchUp throughapps/ifc-convertergets closer.Labeling
enhancement+help wanted. #145 is closed; #158 is the DXF sibling of this. Keeping this open — happy to review apackages/sh3d-converterPR and point at the right core APIs.Cross-link: I've posted a format-import cluster index on #158 — it lists every import thread (DXF/DWG, Sweet Home 3D, IFC, RVT, blueprint) and the two-package shape any new converter should follow, so a contributor starting on Sweet Home 3D doesn't rediscover it: #158 (comment)
Nothing changes here. Still
help wanted, no work started. Sweet Home 3D is arguably the easiest of the set to start with —.sh3dis a zip containing an XML document, so there's no binary geometry kernel to wrangle the way IFC and DXF need one.
Until Pascal Editor, the almost only FOSS was Sweet Home 3D, which is build on Java, have a web version and is available on Win/Mac/Linux (even a Flatpak is available). It is very complete and powerful, but the UI is a bit clunky and dated.
Following related issues (158, 145) would be great to have the possibility to import/export directly a
.sh3dfile.SH3D are essentially ZIP archives that store 2D and 3D views of house plans, including furniture models, textures, lighting information, and camera positions. The internal structure of an SH3D file includes a
Home.xml(formerly was usedHome, a Java Object Serialization file),ContentDigests(SHA-1 hashes of images and models) and some numbered files and directories for JPEG, MTL, and OBJ files.