[Bug]: Preview tabs from other threads stay alive as hidden, unthrottled webviews until restart (13 tabs, ~2.7 GB) #15579

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1. juliusmarminge commented on Oct 4, 2026

   

   juliusmarminge

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   Thanks so much for the careful measurements, @davidvornholt, they made this easy to trace. I checked it on current main (eac52f0087) and on v0.0.45 (6c8fed35dd), and the relevant code is the same on both: preview tabs you aren't looking at stay mounted as live Chromium guests for the rest of the session.

   What I found

   • ElectronBrowserHost sits outside the router and mounts a HostedBrowserWebview for every preview session in every thread, not just the thread on screen (apps/web/src/browser/ElectronBrowserHost.tsx). A thread stays in that index as long as it has sessions (syncActivePreviewThread in apps/web/src/previewStateStore.ts).
   • closeTab runs only when the React guest unmounts (apps/web/src/browser/desktopTabLifetime.ts), which happens only after an explicit preview.close from the UI or from preview_close / t3_preview_close. Closing the panel or switching threads doesn't close tabs.
   • On Linux, an inactive guest is parked at (-100000, -100000) with visibility: hidden (apps/web/src/browser/hostedBrowserWebviewStyle.ts). data-preview-rendering="suspended" is only a marker for automation. Nothing calls Chromium freeze or discard, and nothing destroys the guest.
   • The webview preferences are only contextIsolation=false,sandbox=true,nodeIntegration=false (apps/desktop/src/preview/WebviewPreferences.ts). Electron's default background throttling only applies once Chromium considers the page backgrounded, and the guest is temporarily set to setBackgroundThrottling(false) while recording or in picture-in-picture.
   • The repo never calls navigator.getGamepads(), so the Gamepad polling wakeups very likely come from a script inside one of those guests, which fits your theory.
   • ResourceCleanupService only cleans up terminals and attachments, and thread deletion, archive, and settlement don't touch previews (apps/server/src/orchestration-v2/ThreadDeletion.ts).

   How this differs from the related issues you linked:

   • [Bug]: Inactive macOS previews still render with panel closed: 228% GPU/guest CPU and ~10 GB graphics footprint #14730 is the macOS case, where inactive guests stay visible and keep painting. Linux already takes the hidden path, and hiding wouldn't stop these renderers anyway.
   • [Bug]: Deleting a thread leaves its preview sessions in PreviewManager for the life of the server #14966 covers sessions left behind after a thread is deleted. Here the threads are still alive.
   • [Bug]: After a preview_resize timeout evicts the automation host, the orphaned hidden preview tab makes the GPU process leak memory without bound (21 GB on a 16 GB Mac, machine unusable) #13610 is an orphaned hidden tab after a preview_resize timeout. These tabs were never evicted.

   Likely fix area

   A few options a maintainer could weigh:

   • Really suspending inactive guests (panel closed, other thread, and not recording, in picture-in-picture, or held by automation). That could mean freezing them, which keeps page state, or discarding the webview and recreating it from the session URL when the thread is shown again, which frees the memory but reloads the page.
   • Keeping recording, picture-in-picture, and automation on the existing renderingActive path.
   • Separately, closing previews when a thread is idle or settled, the way idle terminals already close. That would change current behavior, since tabs are kept today so they're still there when you come back.

   Restarting the app or closing each thread's previews remains the workaround for now.

   A maintainer will decide on the fix direction.
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   on Oct 4, 2026
3. juliusmarminge

   closed this as completedin #16961on Oct 8, 2026
4. juliusmarminge commented on Oct 8, 2026

   

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   Reopening: #16961 (merge d9f7c0c) still listed Fixes for this issue, but the hidden-tabs commit was reverted before merge (f3bbe7f — Revert "fix(web): hidden browser tabs on macOS stop painting"). main still keeps inactive macOS guests paintable via keepPaintableWhenInactive: isMacPlatform(...), so this is not fixed yet.
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   reopened this on Oct 8, 2026
6. TheCommandCat commented on Oct 9, 2026

   

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   Additional measured incident on macOS with the newer server-hosted browser path. Posting here to avoid duplicating the broader retained-preview report; the headless rendering path may warrant separate tracking. Related: #17090.

   Environment:

   • T3 Code Nightly 0.0.46-nightly.20261009.2861, installed commit 3b6af0bd1600.
   • macOS 26.6, build 25G72, Apple Silicon (Mac17,9), 15 CPU cores, 48 GiB RAM.
   • Managed chrome-headless-shell 154.0.8037.92.

   The user reported mild lag across the system. During read-only inspection:

   • A T3-owned headless browser's graphics process consumed 140.9% CPU in a timed top sample and 153.7% in a separate rolling ps reading (100% = one core).
   • Browser launch flags included --disable-gpu --enable-unsafe-swiftshader --force-device-scale-factor=2 --disable-background-timer-throttling --disable-renderer-backgrounding.
   • Its graphics process used --use-angle=swiftshader-webgl.
   • The browser had been running for approximately 4 hours 42 minutes and was parented by the T3 backend.
   • T3's Electron GPU/interface processes and WindowServer were also busy; total system CPU still had about 60% idle capacity.
   • Memory pressure was normal, swap was zero, data-volume free space was about 846 GiB, and pmset -g therm reported no thermal/performance warning.
   • preview_status and t3_preview_list for the diagnostic thread returned no tabs. These tools are thread-scoped, so this does not establish that tabs in other threads were inactive or had no automation consumers. Their individual visibility was not inspected.

   At the user's request to close previews, SIGTERM was sent only to the identity-verified shared headless browser root process. Its graphics process and all managed headless-browser processes then disappeared; the T3 desktop and backend remained running. A subsequent timed system sample had 72.4% CPU idle (the preceding sample had 74.9%). This was a short live observation, not a controlled benchmark, and no claim is made that all perceived lag was resolved. The browser was stopped at process level because the available normal tab-close tool only covered the diagnostic thread; preview-session metadata cleanup was not verified.

   This supports investigating the CPU cost and lifecycle of retained server-hosted browser tabs on local macOS installations, in addition to the earlier native webview reports. It does not establish a memory leak, an exact reproduction sequence, or that SwiftShader alone caused the system-wide lag. Inactive tabs without automation, recording, or viewing consumers should suspend rendering, and users should be able to discover and close retained tabs across threads.

   Measurements and this comment prepared with Codex on the user's behalf.
7. rene-demonsters commented on Oct 17, 2026

   

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   Adding another symptom from #20890 (closed as a duplicate of this one): when the project is a browser game or any page that autoplays audio, every lingering preview tab keeps playing its own copy of the soundtrack. After a few rounds of agent checks across threads, you hear dozens of copies of the same loop playing over each other, and the UI gives no way to tell which tabs are making the noise. Settling the threads doesn't stop it either. On macOS here (v0.0.45).

   I've opened #20893 in Ideas for user-facing controls (mute preview tabs by default, an audio indicator, "Mute all" / "Close all preview tabs") as a stopgap alongside the lifecycle fix here.