python3 venv support #2

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1. randomir commented on Aug 7, 2017

   

   randomir

   on Aug 7, 2017

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   I think the difference in timings stems mostly from the fact that virtualenv is by default downloading latest pip and wheels, while venv is not.

   See:

   $ time python3 -m venv a
   
   real	0m1.085s
   user	0m0.964s
   sys	0m0.076s
   
   $ time virtualenv --python python3 --no-download b
   Already using interpreter /usr/bin/python3
   Using base prefix '/usr'
   New python executable in /tmp/envs/b/bin/python3
   Also creating executable in /tmp/envs/b/bin/python
   Installing setuptools, pkg_resources, pip, wheel...done.
   
   real	0m1.326s
   user	0m1.224s
   sys	0m0.092s
   
   $ time virtualenv --python python3 c
   Already using interpreter /usr/bin/python3
   Using base prefix '/usr'
   New python executable in /tmp/envs/c/bin/python3
   Also creating executable in /tmp/envs/c/bin/python
   Installing setuptools, pkg_resources, pip, wheel...done.
   
   real	0m2.031s
   user	0m1.872s
   sys	0m0.148s

   This not only slows virtualenv creation, but also introduces (sometimes great) variation in create times. Not to mention it doesn't work when the user is offline.

   OTOH, the downside of --no-download option is that we're using system's pip, and probably not the latest version. But I'll prioritize mkenv speed (and working offline) over having the latest pip in env, because that's only one pip install -U pip away. Particularly now that I see pyvenv works like that too.

   Now, regarding the pyvenv support, or even defaulting to it, for Python 3 -- I agree that's the way to go. However, I'm still not too familiar with pyvenv and since it does differ substantially from virtualenv (which is so deeply embedded in envie), a lot of testing still has to be done. (We'll be introducing a parallel mechanism for env create/find, making maintenance harder; user has to have ensurepip installed, which comes in a system package like python3-venv, I don't know how's the situation on MacOS; etc.)

   Thank you for this good idea, I'll have a more detailed look.