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The project owner supplied the architecture in review: A3 host/device is not cache-coherent; A5 host/device is. docs/hardware/cache-coherency.md asserted the a5 half without a recorded basis, and the merged descriptor-visibility investigation (#2368, corrected by #2369) listed the question as unknown. Both now record the premise, and — the substance of this PR — both bound what does and does not follow from it.

Labelled throughout as a project architectural premise: not a vendor specification quoted here, not something this repository measured. No external citation is claimed or implied, and nothing here is presented as experimental confirmation.

Docs only: three existing files. No runtime change, no test, build or probe.

What the premise settles

The inbound host→AICPU freshness edge, per architecture. On A5 a host-published descriptor byte becomes visible to an AICPU read without AICPU-side invalidation; on A3 it does not, so on that path some mechanism must make the host's bytes visible before the reader's first read. The premise does not establish the role or the sufficiency of the exact call now in the tree, nor where it should sit. The investigation's verdict, outcome paragraph and unknowns table are reconciled so the coherence question itself is no longer listed as open.

What it does not settle — kept as separate obligations

  • Ordering — coherence supplies no happens-before between writer and reader.
  • Atomicity of a multi-field publication — a descriptor or a 64-byte handshake line written field-by-field is not made one observable event.
  • Writer ownership — no permission to overwrite a field another agent is live on, which is the subject of the three-writer section.
  • The outbound direction — cache_invalidate_range is dc civac, which also cleans; what that clean publishes to on-device readers is its own question.
  • Allocation and run lifetime, and cross-stream dependencies — AICore and AICPU are launched independently on distinct streams.
  • The GM mapping and its write policy.

It authorises no code change, and the text says so: not deleting any cache operation now in the tree, and not a handshake redesign.

Scope kept faithful to what was stated

  • The premise is about the host↔device edge. The AICore → AICPU and SDMA → AICPU sections concern on-device producers; a note now says explicitly that they rest on their own basis and are not derived from this premise. SDMA is an on-device engine, so its a5 row is not covered.
  • The decision table's a5 rule lumps four producers (host DMA, SDMA, AICPU, AICore). It is annotated to say the premise supports the host-DMA arm only. The rule itself is unchanged — no new runtime policy.
  • A3 is named, A2 is not. The premise is not restated as an A2 guarantee. The shared a2a3 tree remains on the conservative path and this documentation does not change it; no A2 coherence model follows, and nothing here establishes that an additional clean-and-invalidate is harmless on any architecture — that is a separate question about the operation's outbound role. (An earlier draft said "safe either way, so no code question turns on this"; that inference is removed.)
  • No extension to internal AICore caches or memory mappings.

One newly sharpened open question, not a defect claim

With A3 non-coherent, the live question there becomes what makes the host's bytes visible before the reader's first read — including a slot's first run, which has no prior deinit. The entry states that some mechanism is required on that path and that neither the mechanism nor whether the descriptor call at its current end-of-previous-run placement supplies it is established here. No defect is claimed, and the premise is not read as proof of any particular call's role. The first-run obligation is now split by observer and architecture rather than listed as unresolved for every variant.

History kept as history

The removal/reintroduction lineage of a5 HBG's two call sites (#1235 → #1661 → #2090) stays as maintenance history, now stated to be independent of the premise: it records when the call returned, not why it was kept, and history proves neither a hardware model nor its absence.

Scope

Modifications to three existing docs; the README index entry's two affected clauses are updated in place so no withdrawn framing is left behind. Does not touch the descriptor gate-tail or allocation work in flight elsewhere.

Testing

  • markdownlint-cli2 with the repo config — 0 errors on all three files
  • [n/a] No build, test, simulator, onboard or benchmark — docs-only

Relates to #2254.

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The documentation now records A3/A5 host-device coherence as a supplied project premise. It limits that premise to the inbound host-to-AICPU freshness edge and keeps ordering, ownership, publication, lifetime, and on-device obligations open.

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Coherence documentation

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Hardware premise and scope
docs/hardware/cache-coherency.md
The document records the A3/A5 premise, its limits, the inferred a5 call history, and separate treatment for on-device paths.
Investigation conclusions and open obligations
docs/investigations/2026-09-runtime-descriptor-input-visibility-chain.md, docs/investigations/README.md
The investigation applies the premise to inbound freshness, retains unresolved obligations, reframes the open questions, and updates the index entry.

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One scope correction while incorporating the user's A3/A5 architecture premise: please avoid the draft sentence that the shared a2a3 conservative path is “safe either way, so no code question turns on this”. The user supplied A3 host/device non-coherence and A5 coherence; that does not establish A2's model or universal harmlessness of an additional clean+invalidate. The same section correctly separates dc civac's outbound clean/writeback role and ownership obligations.

Keep the narrower statement: this clarification names A3, not A2; the existing shared a2a3 path remains unchanged, and no A2 guarantee follows from it. No new code investigation or cache-operation change is requested. This is a wording/evidence correction for the current docs follow-up, not a claim that the A2 path is defective.

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…ettles

The project owner states the architecture: A3 host/device is not cache-coherent, A5
host/device is. `docs/hardware/cache-coherency.md` asserted the a5 half without a
recorded basis, and the merged descriptor-visibility investigation listed the question
as unknown. Both now record the premise, and both bound what follows from it.

It is labelled a project architectural premise — not a vendor specification quoted
here, and not something this repository measured. No external citation is claimed.

Three limits are stated wherever the premise appears, because the surrounding
documents make endpoint-specific claims that do not follow from it. It covers the
host↔device edge only, so the AICore and SDMA rows keep their own basis and the
decision table's a5 rule is annotated to say the premise supports its host-DMA arm
alone. It names A3; A2 is not covered, and since the shared a2a3 tree takes the
conservative path no code question turns on that. And coherence is not ordering,
multi-field publication atomicity, or permission to overwrite a field a reader is live
on.

The investigation's verdict, outcome paragraph and unknowns are reconciled. The
inbound host→AICPU edge is supplied per architecture and is no longer an unknown. What
stays open is listed as separate obligations: on A3 whether the existing
end-of-previous-run placement discharges the inbound requirement for the next run's
first read, outbound publication by the clean half of `dc civac`, whole-line and
multi-field atomicity, ordering between the three writers of the a5 HBG handshake
line, allocation and run lifetime, cross-stream dependencies, and the GM mapping.
No defect is claimed for the A3 placement question.

The removal and reintroduction lineage of a5 HBG's two call sites is kept as
maintenance history and is now stated to be independent of the premise: history proves
neither a hardware model nor its absence.

Nothing here authorises deleting a cache operation or redesigning the handshake. A
`dc civac` also cleans, so its outbound role is a separate question from the inbound
freshness the premise settles.

Relates to hw-native-sys#2254.

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Addressed at 2b67a3762. You were right, and I also owe a correction on my own reporting: I told the manager the feedback surfaces held only bot stubs. They did not — your comment, a CodeRabbit review summary and one unresolved inline thread on cache-coherency.md:171 were all present, and the inline thread raises the same finding independently.

"safe either way" is gone. The sentence now reads that the a2a3 tree remains on the conservative path and that this documentation does not change it, that no A2 coherence model follows from the premise, and that nothing here establishes an additional clean-and-invalidate is harmless on any architecture — pointing at the operation's outbound role as the separate question it is. No A2 claim, no defect claim, no code change.

Two further corrections in the investigation entry, from the same review:

  • The final obligations table listed a slot's first-run reads | every variant | nothing identified, which ignored the premise it had just accepted. It is now split by observer and architecture: A5/AICPU covered by coherence, A3/AICPU open with no prior deinit for those lines, AICore covered by its own scheduler_observe_cache_line on every run. The matching entry in the assumptions list is narrowed the same way.
  • "which is why a2a3's invalidate is load-bearing there" overstated this call's necessity while the entry leaves its placement sufficiency explicitly unknown. It now says only that some mechanism is required on a non-coherent path, and that neither the mechanism nor whether the descriptor call at its current end-of-previous-run placement supplies it is established here.

Also fixed a stale cross-reference: the three-writer section is above, not below.

I left cache-coherency.md's pre-existing "necessary on a2a3 … load-bearing usage" wording alone — it predates this PR, and rewriting existing architecture guidance is outside this scope.

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Static review of 2b67a37: the document corrections address the requested scope and first-run issues, and current-head CI is complete. One metadata-only correction remains before ready: PR body “What the premise settles” still says “which is why a2a3's invalidate is load-bearing there”, contradicting the corrected document and the later body paragraph. Replace it with the same bounded statement: A3 needs a visibility mechanism; this premise does not establish the role or sufficiency of the exact existing call. Also remove/update the stale +148/-36 count (current diff +161/-40). No code, commit, push, build, test or rerun needed. Please finish resolving the already-fixed inline thread through fix-pr and return; manager will check readiness directly.

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